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A History of Burketown and Surrounding Districts
Bob Edols and Carpentaria Downs
| Helen Nancarrow of Hopetoun Park, Armidale writes, in July 1998:
I was surfing the net and came across your web page and I am hoping
that you may be able to assist me in finding out about a man named Bob
Edols who worked on Carpentaria Downs back in 1894 or if you can't, may
be you would be able to put me in touch with someone or direct me to an
organisation that can.
I live on a property called Hopetoun Park located just outside Armidale,
NSW. The land was first bought in 1859 and I am in the process of
researching the owners (some 25) and other people who rented or leased
the land, and their interaction in the small community group surrounding
the property. A previous owner (from the 1960's) phoned the other
day to tell me that they donated a love letter to the archives of the University
of New England, Armidale that they found in an old trunk on our property
in the 60's. I was lucky enough to track the letter down and copy it, and
I am now intrigued as to why it was found on this property.
Who was Bob Edols and Alice? Was Alice a daughter of this
house? Did Bob & Alice marry? Somehow I don't quite think my
love letters from my husband will warrant such interest in the future!
Anyway - Help!!! I have copied a transcription of the letter
(complete with spelling mistakes) on to this email and would be extremely
grateful for any assistance in my quest.
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Transcript of letter from Bob Edols to Alice found in old trunk
in 1960's on property Hopetoun Park, 513 Platform Road, Armidale,
NSW. Letter is now deposited in the Heritage Archives, University
of New England, Armidale, NSW 2351. Ref. A300
"Carpentaria Downs
Aug. 1st 1894
Dearest Alice
Just a few lines to let you know, that I am back at Carpentaria Downs,
again, the old place is like a desertd Castle, & I knock about like,
some one that has, lost a shilling & found sixpence, I always leave
my pipe atc, on the table going to dinner, but somehow it never disappears.
That little Fairy never takes it now, & I have to pick the old thing
up & smoke & think of her, the Boys ask what is the matter with
me, & I tell them that, there is something wrong with my heart, but
they never dream what is really wrong with it, I expect they will be rather
surprised when they hear, what is wrong with it."
[The letter continues, mentioning the property "Lynhurst", " the Rev.
Mr. Storenoon/Stevenoon?, of Georgetown", then several quite tender paragraphs
have been omitted. It goes on to mention that "Tragedy is running at Ingham
on the 18th & 20th of this month, I hope the old fellow will have better
luck this time..." One assumes Tragedy is a horse.]
"Now dearest Alice I will have, to say good night with my best love,
& hoping my own Darling is well, from
Your every loving
Bob. Edols
PS Remember me to Tickie when you write, & tell her, I am
sure we shall be good friends, but tell her not to scold me for stealing
her Sisters heart.
PPS I came across Mr Rockburn's [Hockburn's?] poem that he wrote,
about us at the horse Mountain, I will keep it for a souvenir."
[If the decendants of Bob & Alice are found, and give
their consent, I shall reproduce the letter in full. Ed.]
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| Helen Nancarrow writes in Sept 1998:
Robert (Bob) Russell Edols and Alice Mary Curr - born 7.3.1870, (her
mother's name was Mary Anne Kirwan, father's name was Marmaduke) did actually
marry in Qld. on 21st August 1895. A daughter Mary Kirwan Edols was
born on 16th March 1898. I am waiting for the microfiche for "1899
- on" records for Qld. BDM to see if there were any more children.
Alice's sister referred to in the letter "Tickie" must have been Emily
Adelaide Kirwan (b. 17.7.1877). |
| Liz Edols writes in March 2000:
Bob Edols was the nephew of Thomas Edols who was the patriarch at Burrawang
Station outside of Forbes (my great great grandfather). I believe
Bob's father's name was Richard and he was a couple of years older than
Thomas. I don't know how Bob came to be droving up at Carpentaria Downs. |
| Jonathan Sear writes in December 2000:
A Robert Russell Edols (son of Richard Edols son of George Edols [b
1787 Bridgewater Somerset & married Elizabeth Danger baptised Bridgewater
1791] arr Van Diemens Land 1834) married
Alice Mary Carr
issue : Mary Kirwan Edols
who married Charles de Vere Shortt
Bob Edols was not from Burrawang ... he was a nephew of Thomas Edols
of Burrawang
(source : Hawksford, A J " The Bowler Family 1239 - 1987) 1987
The last address (1989) I have for Jane Hawksford is PO Box 337 Lindfield
NSW 2070 |
Helen Simpson (nee Edols) writes in June 2001:
Information that we have is that Robert Russell Edols was born
in Dundas, NSW in 1864 and died on the 12.07.1902. Alice Mary
Carr was born 07.03.1870 and they married on 21.08.1895. Unfortunately
our family records do not list the children of this union. It is curious,
however, that one of Robert's sisters, Violet, married Dr William
Shortt at Corowa, NSW, on 21.04.1897. We are finding out about Bob
Edols as we research the life and history of Thomas Edols of Burrawang. |
Jackie Noakes writes in February 2003:
The historical notes on Sweers Island
mentioned a couple of names which appeared on my Gr.Gr.Grandfathers and
Gr.Gr.Grandmothers Marriage Certificate - namely: Witnesses to Marriage
were Joseph Travers and W.D'Arcy Uhr. The marriage was registered
by George F. Sandrock, District Registrar of Burke in the Colony of Queensland.
The Marriage of John Child and Mary Butler took place in the District
Registrars Office, Sweers Island on the 2nd January 1869.
At the time of the marriage John Child was a squatter age 25years, of
Lawn Hill Burketown and Mary Butler was a Domestic Servant at Burketown.
I have been told they lived on Carpentaria Downs when John Child
died on the 22 May 1885. Mary remarried 3 months later to William
Charles Borlaise Wilson. Apparently William Wilson's father was also William
Charles Borlaise (or Borlam) Wilson who was a surveyor and his Mother was
Sarah Hall. I was also told John and Mary Child also lived on Lyndhurst
Station. Their daughter Beatrice Child married Francis Edward Cobbold
and they owned Hughenden
Station.
Other information you might like to have is John and Mary Child had
6 children - Charles Edward born 4th October 1873 at Wando Vale,( he was
my Gr.Grandfather) Beatrice Sarah born 31 December1869, James William
born 10 December1868, John Mytton born 2 March 1872, (he was named
after Mr. Mytton who owned Wando Vale), Ernest Burdekin born 23 March 1875
died 7th February 1876 and William Child born 23rd July 1879, died 26th
October1886. I have been told that my Gr.Grandfather's Step
Father, Mr.Wilson, was very cruel and nasty to him and Daddy Shepherd,
who used to take orphans to Carpentaria Downs, knew that Pop was very unhappy
and being ill treated, so gave my Pop 12 shillings to run away and
so he did. He was 13 years old at that time and I believe he went to WandoVale
and to Pentland were he lived and married Elizabeth Ellen Totten.
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